2 Black Dads Speak – Trayvon and Going Forward

Trayvon Martin with his father Tracy Martin in an undated photo

George Zimmerman Not Guilty. 2 Black fathers look ahead and debate what should black people do next. Can we stop the violence in the inner cites and change the perception of our youth? Should we be outraged at ourselves 1st and the Zimmerman's of the world 2nd?

Michael Dean is the founder and host of PodcastJuice. Michael is also a musician, author. His latest science fiction novel: Truths Destiny is available on Amazon.

  • David E. Wilson

    There is so much to address as it relates to this Zimmerman case. First, after seriously taking another good look at the evidence, it sounds as if the fact that Zimmerman got out of his vehicle after calling 911 was considered irrelevant and the jury accepted Zimmerman’s word that he was attacked afterward by Martin and based on that he was “standing his ground.” By the way in stand your ground, the so-called perpetrator does not have to be armed. The victim only needs to plead that he thought his life was in jeopardy. So with this said, there were many mistakes made on both sides. Zimmerman didn’t have to get out of car and Trayvon should not let his emotions get the best of him and attacked Zimmerman if that is what really happened. Bottom line, the burden of proof is in the state to prove Zimmerman’s guilt and they were not able to do that. So with that said, simply a tragic situation. SO what do we as Black males now? That is like a multi- fold answer. First, parents need to stop letting their kids walk out of the house looking “suspicious” and staying out all night. And we know what suspicious looks like. Since we are the biggest victims of black youth crime, we should be well aware. Second we need to take back our communities by the barrel of a gun. Ridiculous what is going on in Chicago right now. And those gangs are not listening to reason anymore. They are, for all intents and purposes, terrorists. And terrorists have to be dealt with like terrorists. Every Black home from this point forward needs to be armed with a firearm. Why? I ask, why not? See, the problem with Black people nowadays is that we have a cultural fear of guns in the black community and has been that way for way too long. We tend to think that the only people that should own guns are criminals and policeman. “Others” don’t think that. Culturally, the larger population understands that a firearm is a deterrent, a tool, used to ward off crime. DO you think home invasions would occur is criminals knew that there was a gun waiting on them on the other side? I submit to you, folks, that one of the reasons we even are in this country today is because historically, Black people have been undergunned compared to others who would want to do harm to us as a people. We need to all get our concealed/open carry licenses, Of course, Martin would have been to young to have one (21 is the age for most states). But Mike Dean, I agree. There has to be a respect factor. We can’t just let others just think that they can blow us away whenever they want to. We can’t let it get to that point. This is not irrational or radical. This is common sense. We are literally at war with ourselves. Malcolm X and the Black Panther Party was saying this in the ’60s. We just didn’t listen. It is time to listen now. I didn’t think that way about guns until about a year ago. My eyes have been opened. It is time for others to wake up as well. This Trayvon case is not the norm. The norm is us killing us. And it has to stop.

  • qstorm

    First David, let me whole-heartedly thank you for taking the time to respond.

    I ride with you on this: “parents need to stop letting their kids walk out of the house looking “suspicious” and staying out all night.” But you kind of lose me with this: “we need to take back our communities by the barrel of a gun.” I guess my question is, who are we taking our communities back from? The thugs and gang-bangers, who are the cause of the multitudes of black men dying, or by the racist George Zimmerman types? I’m not saying black men shouldn’t be armed as is their right (I myself would not have a gun in my home, but that’s me), but I’m not with giving our young people guns. I think that would exacerbate the problem. If we agree that gun homicides are being caused by criminal elements, enemy gang-banging “sets,” then I’m not sure how innocent citizens being armed would help anything. A black family having a gun in the home for protection, yeah, I can see that, but that’s not the situation at hand, I don’t think. Yeah, I agree, you do what you need to do when foolishness is at your LITERAL doorstep. But the Trayvon situation was totally different. As I said on the show, if Trayvon had had a gun and used it on Zimmerman, he’d still be either dead or in jail for life. Also take for example, the grandmother sitting on her stoop who got shot when one fool was shooting at another fool. How would that have been prevented? Or the guy who got shot in his car while changing his baby’s diaper, got shot by a fool over an X-Box? How would his having a gun have prevented that? Unless brother was constantly on guard, I imagine even if he had a gun, he wasn’t checking for any fool while changing a diaper. It may be too late for this generation, but the next gen, we need to teach them how to handle stop and frisk, how to handle cops when they are stopped, and how to avoid foolishness. We need to have our kids pull up their pants, take off the doo-rags, get rid of the gold chains and gold teeth, stop playing wanna-be gangster on Facebook. That’s a start.

    • David E. Wilson

      Q, it’s quite simple. Black males are at war on two fronts. We have non-blacks who have devalued our lives like Zimmerman and others including the police who see us as suspicious. Secondly, we have poor uneducated, homicidal gang bangers who also devalue black life and will kill us for something as simple as looking at them wrong. I am saying that when a people recognize that they are at war, thery make every effort to defend themselves. You won’t find any nation on this planet that doesn’t recognize that they must defend themselves from others who are out to harm them. We need to begin to look at ourselves as a nation and let people know that we are not going to down with a fight, be it a black or non-black perpetrator. With that said, this has nothing to do with the Trayvon case. As I said he was only 17. So he is not legally able to carry a firearm. I am saying that our issue or issues are bigger than just Trayvon. The gun can and should be used as a deterrent to those who want to harm us. And it will be a deterrent. Gangbangers primarily prey on black folks because they know that statistically Black people don’t own firearms so it makes us easier targets. Criminals want to commit their crimes with those who will put up the least resistance. Until we address this black on black crime issue we can’t even get to economic development or education. It is unfortunately our biggest issue here in America. And as I said, just a year ago I was like most law abiding black folks. I was afraid of guns and thought it was a horrible idea to even think of owning a gun. But that is part of our problem: the fear of weaponry. We put up no resistance to those who are trying to harm us. Others don’t have that problem to such a great extent. This country allows us law-abiders to own and carry guns for defensive purposes and we don’t even want to discuss the idea. Again this is not radical thinking, like many of us will like us to believe.

      • qstorm

        I guess given the percentages of black on black crime in Chicago alone, is it true that black folk have an aversion to guns? I don’t know, I guess I just look at MLK…he wasn’t fighting gangbangers, he was fighting the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and they had guns, dogs, the Klan, fire hoses, and he never used a gun to fight back.